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The Obama campaign announced that they were taking the gloves off and proceeding to get all up in that ass on Friday. Thus far, they’ve lived up to this promise, seemingly releasing a new attack ad everyday. I liked the “Maverick” spot, and the “Deception” piece was great too.
But today’s “Fundamentals” ad sorta rubs me the wrong way.
And here’s the McCain/Palin retort (why is she in every ad?), which oddly enough is “issues” focused and doesn’t mention Obama. Hell, it looks like the sort of ads Barry was running himself last week.
So, I guess these guys set the table for their own demise.
But let it be known, I don’t like this latest Obama ad one bit. This one deploys the very same “we distort, you decide” angle as most GOP ads. Hitting hard is fine, just make sure you’re accurate in the process.
Question: Do you think McCain’s “strong economy” statement was taken out of context? Do you think these sorts of ads will be effective for the Obama campaign or is this a bad look?
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“Fundamentally strong economy?” Since when the h*ll did the crapped-upon workers become the foundation of our economy? Economic policy is the foundation… and the GOP supports the trickle-down policy of give to the rich and hope some crumbs fall off the table.
Out of context? Heck no. That B.S. should be attacked for exactly what it was – McCain’s accidental reveal that he’s comfy with his $100mil wife and not concerned about the “fundamental flaws” that screw the rest of us. Hmph
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Yes, I agree that it’s pulling the quote out of context. But I know a lot of people who would hear that bit about the “fundamentals of our economy” and still interpret it as “strong economy” anyway.
Doesn’t excuse it, though.
Comment by i.l.l. September 16, 2008 @ 8:37 pmBased on what you've told me to be true, yes the comment was taken out of context. And?
Why wouldn't those type "distort & decide" ads be effective, For Obama? Sticking to the high road won't win this for him though I wish it would. McSame & Palin lack his integrity but that alone won't cause them to lose.
I think the Obama camp needs to hire The Daily Show's clip collectors to build his ads with!
Comment by -h- September 16, 2008 @ 10:06 pmBrother Average… Suppose Bro o do win. What will he inherit. A coubntry that is so corrupted. Seems like when the white “give” us something…it’s broke or going down. Two years from now it will be “I told you so” when Brother Obama can’t pull us out this depression.
Comment by StillaPanther2 September 16, 2008 @ 11:00 pmAB,
That comment wasn’t taken out of context, it was a very smart tactic for Obama to utilize this. On several occassions McCain made this comment about the “fundamentals of our economy” and he wasn’t referring to the American worker at the time. Take a listen:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/mccain-econ-strong/
MSNBC also ran a montage of it. McCain’s camp tried to have him backpeddle on that comment yesterday after the collapse of Lehman, AIG and Merrill Lynch by saying “fundamentals” meant American workers — that’s why he clarified it. Obama caught him with his pants down! (Eckk—scratch that metaphor, it just made me sick).
Comment by The Dark Angel September 17, 2008 @ 12:07 amThe economy: It was in context before it wasn’t in context.
In the old context, it was about the economy–the whole damn economy, not just some cherrypicking parts of it.
In the new context (the revised one, the one that he hopes will get him out of political hot water with voters), it’s about the “American worker and their innovation, their entrepreneurship, the small business….”
I think McPain has been eating too many of those “Obama Waffles”.
He’s bolting them down so fast, he doesn’t even sugarcoat his waffling by pouring on the heavy syrup of believability.
So if you’re seeing this ad in light of the first (old) context, then it’s on message.
If you’re seeing the ad in light of the revised (new) context, it may be sending the wrong message.
For me, I’m just happy that he’s hitting back: people who support Obama will see the ad one way, and those that don’t support him, another.
Comment by Black Diaspora September 17, 2008 @ 1:10 amYeah,sure…this comment was taken out of context as surely as Charlie Gibson was trying to pull a “gotcha” on Sarah Palin.
Comment by ebw-educated black woman September 17, 2008 @ 2:58 amGet over it, “whiners”!
It was taken out of context. Alot of people bought homes they could not afford and as a result we are seing a massive shift back to the 70′s when loans will be based on someones ability to pay.
Its a good thing in the long run.
Its no different than the correction that took place in high-tech in 2001.
Alot of people lost money, things got corrected and, we are all better off because of it.
It amazes me how in college you take economics and then, once you leave, everything they taught you suddenly is no longer true because of politcal leanings.
One sector of our economy is in turmoil, not all of it.
Look at it this way, the federal government is taking major stakes and control of these institutuons in a way that is tantemount to socialism. Arent you happy?!
Yea Socialism! Right?
Comment by Daedalus September 17, 2008 @ 1:00 pm@ daedalus:
“A lot of people lost money, things got corrected and, we are all better off because of it.”
Speak for yourself. There are plenty of folks, myself included, no longer “shitting in high cotton”, “eating high off the hog”, or “living on Easy Street” with “money to burn”, and there are plenty of others who never were. All better off indeed! Take one hit and pass it, bro!
Comment by boboso September 17, 2008 @ 4:29 pm@daedalus
I hated economics class.
Yes, McCain did indeed say “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”, but he clarified this remark by stating that it’s strong because the will of the American worker hasn’t waned, and our workforce is the smartest and hardest working in the world. Whether or not you agree with that, you have to agree that pulling a simple quote out of context can misconstrue the full intent. I’m not sticking up for McCain, but just like that “100 years in Iraq” quote, this one was purposely misinterpreted.
I’m sorry. I don’t care who you are. If it’s taken out of context then it ain’t right. No matter if it’s the candidate you support or not. All this time Obama supporters (myself included) we talking about how it was not right for McCain’s party and Clinton’s campaign to take Rev’s clips out of context and Obama’s words were twisted all around. What’s good for the goose…and that can go both ways but right now…2 wrongs don’t make it right.
Comment by MissJay September 17, 2008 @ 8:51 pmIt’s not the first time McCain made the “fundamentals of our economy” comment. He and his Party created the de-regulated system that led to the irresponsible speculations that led to the gov’t bailouts (AIG) and collapsing/correcting market. He does not want to disavow those “fundamentals” because it would force him to rethink his GOP economic strategy.
On Monday, he simply realized how it would sound as the Dow took a nose-dive and amended his statement, stretching it all out of its original meaning. Now strong doesn’t refer to to the system but to the workers. So, what does he think about the system?
The Obama campaign is telling the truth about McCain and the GOP. No foul. (This is in contrast to the outright lies that the McPain group has been spreading about Obama – remember the comprehensive sex ed in kindergarten nonsense.)
Comment by Leslie D. Callahan September 18, 2008 @ 3:31 amI was about to post the same thing as Leslie d. callahan above me. McCain has talked about the fundamentals of the economy being strong on several occassions without adding a clarification on what he meant by those fundamentals. The clarification came after the Obama campaign started to pounce on him for that.
Comment by Wilma September 18, 2008 @ 10:26 amThe clarification came after the Lehman/Merrill Lynch/AIG mess, not after Obama attacked him. Correlation does not equal causation.
Comment by spool32 September 18, 2008 @ 4:01 pmDaedalus said…
“It was taken out of context. Alot of people bought homes they could not afford and as a result we are seing a massive shift back to the 70′s when loans will be based on someones ability to pay.
Hey, Daedalus, those good, well-intentioned people would not have been able to buy those homes, if reasonable financial measures had been taken by predatory lenders.
But, then, that’s why they’re called predators.
Lending hundreds of thousands of dollars to subprime borrowers, and throwing in a little creative financing to boot, is what led, in large measure to this financial fiasco.
Hell, what did they expect would happen?
And you said, “Its a good thing in the long run.“
Good? It’s something that shouldn’t have been allowed to happen in the first place.
What needs correcting is a return to responsible lending, and responsible borrowing, not greed, excessive gambling, and creative means to get rich, and part people from their money.
The lending institutions should have known better. Borrowers were merely trying to own a bigger piece of the American pie than had been afforded them.
Who do I blame?
Both, but most of my blame is leveled at the big lending institutions that knew that they were taking financial risks with these subprime borrowers, and they knew, too, that these borrowers were likely to default on many of these loans.
They gambled on the numbers being manageable, and they weren’t.
Comment by Black Diaspora September 19, 2008 @ 12:44 am